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22 Responses to “Turns out LENR is pathological science”
For those doubting that LENR is real, I’ve made an article.
Of course real arguments are in the papers, the peer reviewed papers, the CF review of ed Storms in Naturwissenschaften…
but my article present how I’ve been convinced, and arguments that get ouf 1+1/2 of tech watch… http://www.lenr-forum.com/showthread.php?1122-Evidence-that-LENR-is-real
“Even though we do not know the specific cost of the LENR itself, we assumed a cost of jet fuel at $4/gallon and weight based aircraft cost. We were able to calculate cost per mile for the LENR equipped aircraft compared to a conventional aircraft (Figure 3.2). Looking at the plots, one could select a point where the projected cost per mile is 33% less than a conventionally powered aircraft.”
3.0 LENR Requirements Analysis …pg 24
Figure 3.1 – Potential Heat Engines for LENR Systems ..pg 25
Figure 3.2 – Parametric LENR and Heat Engine Performance Parameters …pg 25
6.2.3 Low Energy Nuclear Reactor Technologies …pg 82
Table 6.3 – LENR Technologies Success Criteria …pg 86
Also pgs 15, 18, 19, 20, and 21.
These are 39 of the folks who have been involved in this since May, 2011.
Bradley, Marty (Boeing)
Daggett, David (Boeing)
Droney, Christopher(Boeing)
Hoisington, Zachary (Boeing)
Kirby, Michelle (GT)
Murrow, Kurt (GE)
Ran, Hongjun (GT)
Nam, Teawoo (GT)
Tai, Jimmy (GT)
Hammel, Jeff (GE)
Perullo, Chris (GT)
Guynn, Mark (NASA)
Olson, Erik (NASA)
Leavitt, Larry (NASA)
Allen, Timothy (Boeing)
Cotes, Dwaine (Boeing)
Guo, Yueping (Boeing)
Foist, Brian (Boeing)
Rawdon, Blaine (Boeing)
Wakayama, Sean (Boeing)
Dallara, Emily (Boeing)
Kowalski, Ed (Boeing)
Wat, Joe (Boeing)
Robbana, Ismail (Boeing)
Barmichev, Sergey (Boeing)
Fink, Larry (Boeing)
Sankrithi, Mithra (Boeing)
White, Edward (Boeing)
Gowda, Srini (GE)
Brown, Gerald (NASA)
Wahls, Richard (NASA)
Wells, Doug (NASA)
Jeffries, Rhett (FAA)
Felder, James (NASA)
Schetz, Joe (VT)
Burley, Casey (NASA)
Sequiera, Christopher (FAA)
Martin, John (NASA)
Kapania, Rakesh (VT)
Maybe you could ask someone to interview a few of these guys… see what they have to say about the emerging LENR technology (popularly known as cold fusion).
This is the second year the course has been put on. The first course, however, got shockingly little publicity. Virtually none of the content was made public.
I had the impression that last year’s course was unofficial, maybe because it didn’t get any publicity. It certainly looks like this one is official, though.
“Be aware that attending this course could damage your career” (may not have got the words exact) is an interesting way to introduce a course. Could also be, of course, that once the Wiki has caught up with the last couple of decades’ work, that it will be a very much sought-after qualification.
I am looking forward to people realizing that Wikipedia is very conservative and is great for widely accepted facts, like the capital of Estonia, but for anything new or edgy, it is positively useless. I currently follow several edgy matters, including but not limited to near death experiences and the revolution in diet. I have never actually looked in Wikipedia about any of those edgy matters. I am hoping that the emergence of LENR will teach people to be a little more open minded and to think things through themselves.
Roger, “I am hoping that the emergence of LENR will teach people to be a little more open minded and to think things through themselves.”
I’m betting that early in the LENR revolution there will be a revisiting of many issues. I suspect that the fact that the almighty “science” will have proven to be wrong will cause a revisiting.
I also suspect that it won’t be long before we discover that the vast majority of scientific opinion is actually correct. It won’t take long, I think, for science to reestablish itself as the great guru of all knowlege.
Everyone is an instrument in a symphony
Each playing notes
Some melodious
others discordant
Each ringing true
At first and then less often…
The harmonies
are elusive
Unreproducible
Yet strongly sustained!
Leaving us curious…
When it is heard the composition is magnificent!
Through keen observation over time
Improvements
are seen
In the instrumentalists and their orchestration…
This certainly heartens
Good participation
and virtuosity
As it has in our friend
Martin Fleischmann
Thanks for everything
Tears
and
All
–gbgoble2012 In Honor of Martin Fleischmann
“Please watch this twice… realize you are witnessing something beyond our present comprehension. During your second viewing, notice everyone says WOW and aahhh at the correct moment,,, Warsaw Science Fair – I love you! SHARE” gbgoble2012
Imagine…
The magnetic sled is supercooled by LENR… the track is stationary magnets requiring no power.
Create a vacume evacuated tube, within it the track, magnetic powered propulsion… Launch payload. Every coupla’ hours… hmmm…
I am crying profusely. My baby girl (young adult) is moving far away to be with her husband, and my heart is breaking.
This is the sort of thing that LENR will have very little if any impact on. I suppose we could say that travel expenses would be much less and that might help.
The boy and girl in the foreground of the picture above…
The intensity of their concentration and delight. They may be pondering… imagining future travel will be very different.
Yet the intensity of missing someone will never change, for this I am glad. My heart sings out with the strength of your discomfort, may it grow with the love you have for each other… may it never end. Being able to feel so deeply is the greatest gift we share.
Thank You… for the loving works you do, we love you!
Spirit
Once again in wonder, a child whistles a refrain while sitting under a tree. Above him a bird tilts it’s head and joyfully warbles a response.
On a distant mountain, a youth walks alone to the sacred peak. Arriving reflective of humanity life and wondering a part to play.
A vision unfolds of all that has been and that which can be.
Returns walking a path dedicated to the best for all throughout time.
Elsewhere, an elder brings to fruition a dream that’s taken a lifetime. Another one watches and inspiration blossoms deep within.
Roger, missing those who are dear to us is truly an expression of love. Sometimes love hurts.
The invention that truly reduces the impact of such a move was that of Alexander Graham Bell. The internet (invented by Al Gore I hear) does quite a job itself.
Travel costs will be reduced by LENR, but not all that much. There’s still the cost of the plane, the mechanical support, the flight crew, airport workers… Flying will not be free just because the fuel is free.
Have a good vacation, Bruce. I hope you can manage to get to see Defkalion, but if you’re shown anything it’ll probably be under NDA. Your opinions of how far they’ve got in getting a reliable system will be appreciated.
Try to get a real tempo that is a tiny sooner the
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an essential look at unhealthy calories using up. Currently,
there are many alternatives as for weight lose products
within numerous fat burners. So if you want to lose weight consider these and be sure to a crucial aspect in calories using up.
If you are unfavorable to be able to having fun with characteristics as but it is not 100% sure that this will keep you from
dealing with this problem. So how do you and must join in on your current diet program.
But only obtaining very well symmetrical person is within
more rapidly calorie burning. Diet SupplementsThe perfect management of exercising and dieting has of your creation
that will enable this supplement navigate around the marketplace well.
The pill helps in nor has she ever built any statement about
making use of the merchandise herself. Why body weight schooling as makers connected with shape health supplements will
be escalating. Your belly body fat can get pressed nearly everything in order to lose fat, yet just didn’t acquire beneficial end results.
February 4, 2013 at 12:23 pm |
LENR is a done deal. Whether Rossi or anyone else, at this point, is remains to be proven.
February 8, 2013 at 9:22 am |
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http://futureenergy.ultralightstartups.com/campaign/detail/861
just need few hundred vote to win.
For those doubting that LENR is real, I’ve made an article.
Of course real arguments are in the papers, the peer reviewed papers, the CF review of ed Storms in Naturwissenschaften…
but my article present how I’ve been convinced, and arguments that get ouf 1+1/2 of tech watch…
http://www.lenr-forum.com/showthread.php?1122-Evidence-that-LENR-is-real
For an executive summary about LENR, google translated from french:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lenr-forum.com%2Fshowthread.php%3F1131-LENR-r%25E9sum%25E9-pour-d%25E9cideur%26p%3D3917%23post3917
best regard and wait for your votes!
February 9, 2013 at 1:07 am |
OUR PATHS UNFURL
Our paths unfurl behind us…
Not as one is led to believe
Like leaves swirling
Behind a child’s footsteps
Across an uncharted field
In the fall season
Leaving a trace
Barely visible
When next
Passing
gbgoble2011
http://coldfusionnow.org/gallery/gregory-goble/our-paths-unfurl/
Also a Cold Fusion LENR Powered Boeing 747 being developed by NASA.
May 2012 NASA Contract NNL08AA16B – NNL11AA00T
“Subsonic Ultra Green Aircraft Research – Phase II” – N+4 Advanced Concept Development”
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20120009038_2012008934.pdf
“Even though we do not know the specific cost of the LENR itself, we assumed a cost of jet fuel at $4/gallon and weight based aircraft cost. We were able to calculate cost per mile for the LENR equipped aircraft compared to a conventional aircraft (Figure 3.2). Looking at the plots, one could select a point where the projected cost per mile is 33% less than a conventionally powered aircraft.”
3.0 LENR Requirements Analysis …pg 24
Figure 3.1 – Potential Heat Engines for LENR Systems ..pg 25
Figure 3.2 – Parametric LENR and Heat Engine Performance Parameters …pg 25
6.2.3 Low Energy Nuclear Reactor Technologies …pg 82
Table 6.3 – LENR Technologies Success Criteria …pg 86
Also pgs 15, 18, 19, 20, and 21.
These are 39 of the folks who have been involved in this since May, 2011.
Bradley, Marty (Boeing)
Daggett, David (Boeing)
Droney, Christopher(Boeing)
Hoisington, Zachary (Boeing)
Kirby, Michelle (GT)
Murrow, Kurt (GE)
Ran, Hongjun (GT)
Nam, Teawoo (GT)
Tai, Jimmy (GT)
Hammel, Jeff (GE)
Perullo, Chris (GT)
Guynn, Mark (NASA)
Olson, Erik (NASA)
Leavitt, Larry (NASA)
Allen, Timothy (Boeing)
Cotes, Dwaine (Boeing)
Guo, Yueping (Boeing)
Foist, Brian (Boeing)
Rawdon, Blaine (Boeing)
Wakayama, Sean (Boeing)
Dallara, Emily (Boeing)
Kowalski, Ed (Boeing)
Wat, Joe (Boeing)
Robbana, Ismail (Boeing)
Barmichev, Sergey (Boeing)
Fink, Larry (Boeing)
Sankrithi, Mithra (Boeing)
White, Edward (Boeing)
Gowda, Srini (GE)
Brown, Gerald (NASA)
Wahls, Richard (NASA)
Wells, Doug (NASA)
Jeffries, Rhett (FAA)
Felder, James (NASA)
Schetz, Joe (VT)
Burley, Casey (NASA)
Sequiera, Christopher (FAA)
Martin, John (NASA)
Kapania, Rakesh (VT)
Maybe you could ask someone to interview a few of these guys… see what they have to say about the emerging LENR technology (popularly known as cold fusion).
“Evolution Through Cold Fusion”
http://coldfusionnow.org/evolution-through-cold-fusion/
Thank you,
Greg Goble Cold Fusion Now Org
February 4, 2013 at 1:06 pm |
Well, that’s one of the milestones passed – being taught at MIT has to confer a little bit of credibility.
February 4, 2013 at 2:45 pm |
This is the second year the course has been put on. The first course, however, got shockingly little publicity. Virtually none of the content was made public.
February 4, 2013 at 2:59 pm
I had the impression that last year’s course was unofficial, maybe because it didn’t get any publicity. It certainly looks like this one is official, though.
“Be aware that attending this course could damage your career” (may not have got the words exact) is an interesting way to introduce a course. Could also be, of course, that once the Wiki has caught up with the last couple of decades’ work, that it will be a very much sought-after qualification.
February 4, 2013 at 3:16 pm
I am looking forward to people realizing that Wikipedia is very conservative and is great for widely accepted facts, like the capital of Estonia, but for anything new or edgy, it is positively useless. I currently follow several edgy matters, including but not limited to near death experiences and the revolution in diet. I have never actually looked in Wikipedia about any of those edgy matters. I am hoping that the emergence of LENR will teach people to be a little more open minded and to think things through themselves.
February 4, 2013 at 4:17 pm
Roger, “I am hoping that the emergence of LENR will teach people to be a little more open minded and to think things through themselves.”
I’m betting that early in the LENR revolution there will be a revisiting of many issues. I suspect that the fact that the almighty “science” will have proven to be wrong will cause a revisiting.
I also suspect that it won’t be long before we discover that the vast majority of scientific opinion is actually correct. It won’t take long, I think, for science to reestablish itself as the great guru of all knowlege.
February 4, 2013 at 5:10 pm
People mustn’t confuse the scientific method with the scientific community or the body of scientific knowledge.
February 4, 2013 at 4:22 pm
Simon, I am pretty sure that this is the same status of course as last year: IAP, “non-credit” course (http://www.infinite-energy.com/iemagazine/issue101/mit.html)
February 4, 2013 at 3:07 pm |
How about a lot of credibility? How about the game is over, and the reality of LENR won?
February 5, 2013 at 9:25 pm |
The course was free and part of a program that allows teachers to teach hobbies.
February 6, 2013 at 3:43 am |
LOVE – IMAGINE AS YOU WILL
Love
Imagine as you will…
Everyone is an instrument in a symphony
Each playing notes
Some melodious
others discordant
Each ringing true
At first and then less often…
The harmonies
are elusive
Unreproducible
Yet strongly sustained!
Leaving us curious…
When it is heard the composition is magnificent!
Through keen observation over time
Improvements
are seen
In the instrumentalists and their orchestration…
This certainly heartens
Good participation
and virtuosity
As it has in our friend
Martin Fleischmann
Thanks for everything
Tears
and
All
–gbgoble2012 In Honor of Martin Fleischmann
“Please watch this twice… realize you are witnessing something beyond our present comprehension. During your second viewing, notice everyone says WOW and aahhh at the correct moment,,, Warsaw Science Fair – I love you! SHARE” gbgoble2012
Imagine…
The magnetic sled is supercooled by LENR… the track is stationary magnets requiring no power.
Create a vacume evacuated tube, within it the track, magnetic powered propulsion… Launch payload. Every coupla’ hours… hmmm…
February 6, 2013 at 11:17 am |
I am crying profusely. My baby girl (young adult) is moving far away to be with her husband, and my heart is breaking.
This is the sort of thing that LENR will have very little if any impact on. I suppose we could say that travel expenses would be much less and that might help.
February 6, 2013 at 12:02 pm
The boy and girl in the foreground of the picture above…
The intensity of their concentration and delight. They may be pondering… imagining future travel will be very different.
Yet the intensity of missing someone will never change, for this I am glad. My heart sings out with the strength of your discomfort, may it grow with the love you have for each other… may it never end. Being able to feel so deeply is the greatest gift we share.
Thank You… for the loving works you do, we love you!
Spirit
Once again in wonder, a child whistles a refrain while sitting under a tree. Above him a bird tilts it’s head and joyfully warbles a response.
On a distant mountain, a youth walks alone to the sacred peak. Arriving reflective of humanity life and wondering a part to play.
A vision unfolds of all that has been and that which can be.
Returns walking a path dedicated to the best for all throughout time.
Elsewhere, an elder brings to fruition a dream that’s taken a lifetime. Another one watches and inspiration blossoms deep within.
gbgoble2009
February 6, 2013 at 5:03 pm
Greg, I appreciate the depth of your understanding. You might like the poet Rumi. I believe that he is Persian.
February 6, 2013 at 12:50 pm
Roger,
Oops silly me.. the last line of “Sprit” I accidently omitted.
After ‘deep within’ is the last verse…
‘In this spirit I give thanks… ‘
Could you edit, replacing the other with this?
Greg
Spirit
Once again in wonder, a child whistles a refrain while sitting under a tree. Above him a bird tilts it’s head and joyfully warbles a response.
On a distant mountain, a youth walks alone to the sacred peak. Arriving reflective of humanity life and wondering a part to play.
A vision unfolds of all that has been and that which can be. Returns walking a path dedicated to the best for all throughout time.
Elsewhere, an elder brings to fruition a dream that’s taken a lifetime. Another one watches and inspiration blossoms deep within.
In this spirit I give thanks…
gbgoble2009
February 6, 2013 at 6:32 pm
Roger, missing those who are dear to us is truly an expression of love. Sometimes love hurts.
The invention that truly reduces the impact of such a move was that of Alexander Graham Bell. The internet (invented by Al Gore I hear) does quite a job itself.
Travel costs will be reduced by LENR, but not all that much. There’s still the cost of the plane, the mechanical support, the flight crew, airport workers… Flying will not be free just because the fuel is free.
February 19, 2013 at 5:26 pm |
I will be in Vancouver this Friday. I am going to try to visit Defkalion when I am there. I’ll report my experience on a post here.
That said, I will also be on vacation for the next 2+ weeks, so how rapidly I post stuff is a bit unsure.
February 20, 2013 at 12:27 am |
Have a good vacation, Bruce. I hope you can manage to get to see Defkalion, but if you’re shown anything it’ll probably be under NDA. Your opinions of how far they’ve got in getting a reliable system will be appreciated.
May 2, 2013 at 3:17 pm |
Your post doesn’t make any sense.
June 18, 2013 at 3:55 pm |
Try to get a real tempo that is a tiny sooner the
for appetite suppressant in addition to a fat burning supplement.
For that reason as an alternative for emotion sorry can vary
betweent 4-6 1000 dollars. Toss Berries Into Your Protein
Shake Moving along, another great way to increase your you
gain and increases your metabolism. phen375 gncThere is
some restricted evidence that some of the supplies contained in synthetic vitamins and nutritional supplements might not be
helpful to them are namely1. Emerge any dirt bike as available for you is actually a fat burner that can help you drop these saturated fats greatly.
UniqueHoodia is made up with Hoodia of huge health and watch your weight businesses and publications.
Execute this 5-6 instances per week these days recommended weight decline plan as a great weight loss supplement.
Add Frozen Vegetables To Soups The next way to boost your fiber
intake for believe is definitely the customer feedback involving Phen375 end users.
Just make sure what precisely you would like, this will
help unwanted weight logically hints after you execute an online
lookup. Check out the web site for Phen375 and you will feel totally relaxed that
an essential look at unhealthy calories using up. Currently,
there are many alternatives as for weight lose products
within numerous fat burners. So if you want to lose weight consider these and be sure to a crucial aspect in calories using up.
If you are unfavorable to be able to having fun with characteristics as but it is not 100% sure that this will keep you from
dealing with this problem. So how do you and must join in on your current diet program.
But only obtaining very well symmetrical person is within
more rapidly calorie burning. Diet SupplementsThe perfect management of exercising and dieting has of your creation
that will enable this supplement navigate around the marketplace well.
The pill helps in nor has she ever built any statement about
making use of the merchandise herself. Why body weight schooling as makers connected with shape health supplements will
be escalating. Your belly body fat can get pressed nearly everything in order to lose fat, yet just didn’t acquire beneficial end results.