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	<title>Comments on: A method of retrofitting existing cars to LENR technology</title>
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		<title>By: brucefast</title>
		<link>http://nickelpower.org/2012/10/20/a-method-of-retrofitting-existing-cars-to-lenr-technology/#comment-20283</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[brucefast]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 04:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its not about getting you to click their link, its about getting higher ratings from the search engines.  One major tool the engines use is how many websites point to it.  

I do the same with this site -- sort of.  I produce proper, relevant comment on relevant sites, and leave a link to this website.  I believe this to be fair play.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its not about getting you to click their link, its about getting higher ratings from the search engines.  One major tool the engines use is how many websites point to it.  </p>
<p>I do the same with this site &#8212; sort of.  I produce proper, relevant comment on relevant sites, and leave a link to this website.  I believe this to be fair play.</p>
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		<title>By: Iggy Dalrymple</title>
		<link>http://nickelpower.org/2012/10/20/a-method-of-retrofitting-existing-cars-to-lenr-technology/#comment-20279</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Iggy Dalrymple]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 04:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They always  lead off with gushing flattery....and their username inevitably invites you to check out their webpage, but i didn&#039;t bother.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They always  lead off with gushing flattery&#8230;.and their username inevitably invites you to check out their webpage, but i didn&#8217;t bother.</p>
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		<title>By: brucefast</title>
		<link>http://nickelpower.org/2012/10/20/a-method-of-retrofitting-existing-cars-to-lenr-technology/#comment-20265</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[brucefast]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 00:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry Iggy, but you commented to a spam.  That&#039;s why he was clearing his mind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Iggy, but you commented to a spam.  That&#8217;s why he was clearing his mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Iggy Dalrymple</title>
		<link>http://nickelpower.org/2012/10/20/a-method-of-retrofitting-existing-cars-to-lenr-technology/#comment-20237</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Iggy Dalrymple]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2013 14:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When one finally clears his mind, it&#039;ll be like Steve Jobs&#039; last words, &quot;Wow!   Wow!   Wow!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When one finally clears his mind, it&#8217;ll be like Steve Jobs&#8217; last words, &#8220;Wow!   Wow!   Wow!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Iggy Dalrymple</title>
		<link>http://nickelpower.org/2012/10/20/a-method-of-retrofitting-existing-cars-to-lenr-technology/#comment-15611</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Iggy Dalrymple]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 23:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No 20 minute warm-up if you keep the water hot.  No need to replenish water if you have a condenser.  The Cyclone steam engine is equipped with a condenser.  Unlimited range, terrific torque, probably obviating need for a transmission.   You might say the Cyclone isn&#039;t ready for prime time.  It&#039;s further developed than LENR.

My guess is that the LENR/steam car is 10 to 20 yr off.
Sooner for boats, locomotives, and trucks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No 20 minute warm-up if you keep the water hot.  No need to replenish water if you have a condenser.  The Cyclone steam engine is equipped with a condenser.  Unlimited range, terrific torque, probably obviating need for a transmission.   You might say the Cyclone isn&#8217;t ready for prime time.  It&#8217;s further developed than LENR.</p>
<p>My guess is that the LENR/steam car is 10 to 20 yr off.<br />
Sooner for boats, locomotives, and trucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://nickelpower.org/2012/10/20/a-method-of-retrofitting-existing-cars-to-lenr-technology/#comment-15609</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 23:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nickel + hydrogen = heat
Heat + water = motion
Motion + magnets = electricity
Electricity + water = hydrogen (probably a lot more than you put in, but it isn&#039;t a perpetual motion device because you don&#039;t get any nickel)
hydrogen + oxygen = heat + motion in an internal combustion, gas turbine or jet engine

Having all this in a car seems like a very Heath Robinsonesque way of doing things.  It makes sense to have an LNER system producing fuel to fill up your car because internal combustion engines are quite simply the best way to power a car in terms of range and start-up time.  Steam engines take about 20 minutes to warm up, and have a limited range because you need a supply of cold water.  Modern steam engines improve on this a little, but they are still nowhere near the 3 second start-up time and 600 mile range of my diesel car.  Electric engines solve the start-up time problem, but have a broadly similar range to steam.

I think LNER will be used initially in heating systems, because that is the simplest thing to do with them.  Next they will be used to generate electricity, then for manufacturing synthetic fuels.  You can make oil from air and water, and get maybe about 50% of the energy you put in.  Hook that up to an LNER powered generator, and you have practically free oil that you can put in your existing car.  Once you have that, there is no need to change the design of your car, so I don&#039;t think there is any point in researching steam powered cars.

I also think we are quite a bit further away from a practical mass market solution than some people think.  I think the best example is stem cells. People have been working on them for at least 15 years, and only in the last year or so we saw the first treatment based on it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nickel + hydrogen = heat<br />
Heat + water = motion<br />
Motion + magnets = electricity<br />
Electricity + water = hydrogen (probably a lot more than you put in, but it isn&#8217;t a perpetual motion device because you don&#8217;t get any nickel)<br />
hydrogen + oxygen = heat + motion in an internal combustion, gas turbine or jet engine</p>
<p>Having all this in a car seems like a very Heath Robinsonesque way of doing things.  It makes sense to have an LNER system producing fuel to fill up your car because internal combustion engines are quite simply the best way to power a car in terms of range and start-up time.  Steam engines take about 20 minutes to warm up, and have a limited range because you need a supply of cold water.  Modern steam engines improve on this a little, but they are still nowhere near the 3 second start-up time and 600 mile range of my diesel car.  Electric engines solve the start-up time problem, but have a broadly similar range to steam.</p>
<p>I think LNER will be used initially in heating systems, because that is the simplest thing to do with them.  Next they will be used to generate electricity, then for manufacturing synthetic fuels.  You can make oil from air and water, and get maybe about 50% of the energy you put in.  Hook that up to an LNER powered generator, and you have practically free oil that you can put in your existing car.  Once you have that, there is no need to change the design of your car, so I don&#8217;t think there is any point in researching steam powered cars.</p>
<p>I also think we are quite a bit further away from a practical mass market solution than some people think.  I think the best example is stem cells. People have been working on them for at least 15 years, and only in the last year or so we saw the first treatment based on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Bird</title>
		<link>http://nickelpower.org/2012/10/20/a-method-of-retrofitting-existing-cars-to-lenr-technology/#comment-15603</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger Bird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 15:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dang!!!!!!!!!  I forgot!!!!!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dang!!!!!!!!!  I forgot!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: brucefast</title>
		<link>http://nickelpower.org/2012/10/20/a-method-of-retrofitting-existing-cars-to-lenr-technology/#comment-15599</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[brucefast]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 14:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[C&#039;mon Roger, you are on an LENR site.  We are all a bunch of evidence ignoring pathological science loving idiots here, remember.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon Roger, you are on an LENR site.  We are all a bunch of evidence ignoring pathological science loving idiots here, remember.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Bird</title>
		<link>http://nickelpower.org/2012/10/20/a-method-of-retrofitting-existing-cars-to-lenr-technology/#comment-15598</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger Bird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 14:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Muhammad, I am afraid that we are going to have to see it to believe it.  One problem with what you are saying is that LENR needs so little hydrogen that 18,300 km could easily be traversed with a very small canister of hydrogen.  All that effort to make hydrogen is completely unnecessary.

I bet that you were thinking that we are a bunch of gullible nincompoops.  Sorry to disappoint you, but we are all critical thinkers here, and extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof, like us looking under the hood and seeing it run and stuff like that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Muhammad, I am afraid that we are going to have to see it to believe it.  One problem with what you are saying is that LENR needs so little hydrogen that 18,300 km could easily be traversed with a very small canister of hydrogen.  All that effort to make hydrogen is completely unnecessary.</p>
<p>I bet that you were thinking that we are a bunch of gullible nincompoops.  Sorry to disappoint you, but we are all critical thinkers here, and extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof, like us looking under the hood and seeing it run and stuff like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Bird</title>
		<link>http://nickelpower.org/2012/10/20/a-method-of-retrofitting-existing-cars-to-lenr-technology/#comment-15596</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger Bird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 14:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Craig, you are deflecting again.  We have no problem with disagreement.  We have a problem with people not willing to look through Galileo&#039;s telescope and then saying that there is nothing revolving around Jupiter.  You deflect constantly to avoid facing the fact that you won&#039;t look at the evidence.  What are you afraid of?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig, you are deflecting again.  We have no problem with disagreement.  We have a problem with people not willing to look through Galileo&#8217;s telescope and then saying that there is nothing revolving around Jupiter.  You deflect constantly to avoid facing the fact that you won&#8217;t look at the evidence.  What are you afraid of?</p>
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