Home LENR experiment!?

If this video is correct, we can do LENR transmutations in our own kitchen!

Let the revolution begin!

If I understand this video correctly, using your home microwave, you can convert carbon into iron.  You prove it with a magnet.

Sourced from: http://www.greentechinfo.eu

We need to get this replicated and proved.  Then we need to find a way to inform the world that an ordinary microwave oven is a transmutation device.  (I wonder if we can convert lead into gold.  Oooh, that’s a bad idea, I own a significant supply of gold.)

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43 Responses to “Home LENR experiment!?”

  1. Astral Projectee Says:

    I think lead will be commercially viable when LENR comes out.

    Peace!

    • Astral Projectee Says:

      Sorry I mean turning lead into gold will be commercially viable when LENR comes out. At least eventually.

      By the way there is talk right now about how gas prices are really high and there is pressure on Obama to bring them down.
      Peace!

  2. Iggy Dalrymple Says:

    Maybe we can convert Craig, attitudinally if not physically.

  3. Simon Derricutt Says:

    Funnily enough it is easier to change Gold into Lead by LENR than the other way round. LENR adds neutrons that decay into protons inside the nucleus, so the sequence goes Gold, Mercury, Tellurium, Lead. The fact that the expensive Palladium changes into relatively cheap Silver was used as a negative point against the feasibility of making power by LENR, but I forget by whom.

  4. Peter Thieberger Says:

    Look at this: http://www.ferrocarbon.it/deliv_b.html

    • brucefast Says:

      Spoil sport.

      • Iggy Dalrymple Says:

        I guess gold is safe for now.

      • Simon Derricutt Says:

        Thanks Peter, that is indeed interesting. So microwaving some carbon may be a way to make Fullerenes cheaply – that is useful in itself, if true. Certainly if it was transmuting it would not have been “safe” with the odd 20MW or so of power coming out of the sample over 3 minutes! Plus of course all the radiation that would entail.

        Arrangements of atoms we have not previously tested may have unexpected physical properties that we currently cannot predict. Seeing these anomalies, taking note of them and measuring them accurately enough is the basis of advances in technology as well as basic theory. Definitely interesting times.

    • brucefast Says:

      “FERROCARBON also aims to make a considerable input to fundamental science. The existence of carbon-based magnetic material requires a root-and-branch rework of magnetic theory. The existing theory for magnetism in elements with only ‘s’ and ‘p’ electron orbits (such as carbon) is in an embryonic state and will develop rapidly in the next few years.”

      If all that’s going on in the microwave is the conversion of carbon to magnetic carbon, it still seems rather interesting. I also noted that the author discussed other molecules being created. How he would know that isn’t clear. But the only way I can figure to make such claims is do a scientific analysis (spectrum analysis, etc.)

    • brucefast Says:

      So if I read this article right, either the experiment is producing transmutations, ie cold fusion, or it is proving that the current theory of magnetism is wrong. In any case it is a significant scientific discovery — or a fraud by someone who hasn’t figured out how to monetize it.

  5. Roger Bird Says:

    I am pretty sure that I know what Craig will say: “It has not been proven. There is no scientifically valid reason to believe it. It is a scam. Egely is a crook.

  6. Roger Bird Says:

    Thank you, Peter Thieberger, you saved us from a great deal of embarrassment, I think.

    This does mean that I will have second thoughts about cooking my food with a microwave oven.

  7. Craig Binns Says:

    Roger, a scam? Is he asking for money?

    I don’t know what to make of the juxtaposition of your 5:52 and 5:57 posts. Did your belief, and your disparagement of my potential incredulity, have a lifespan of a mere five minutes?

    Would I have been right to say: “it hasn’t been proven; there’s no scientifically valid reason to believe it.”? I think I would. And in another post I do, in a jocular way.

    • Roger Bird Says:

      Craig, your main thrust is ALWAYS going to be “It is not been proven. It is not a scientifically valid experiment”, etc. etc. etc. Not “That was interesting. Perhaps we could test the sample in some other way”, etc. etc. etc.

  8. Craig Binns Says:

    Roger, inconsistency is your policy at the moment! You shed a belief in 5 minutes; you deplore my incredulity here, but in the replicators thread you flatter me for it:

    “I confess that I am agreeing with Craig Binns on this one. I am much more comfortable with creating magnetic carbon in a microwave oven than pushing a nucleus from 6 protons to 26 proton iron.”

    You’ve got my poor head spinning!

    • Roger Bird Says:

      Emerson said, “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines.”

      I don’t pretend to have all the answers; I am wrong sometimes. I change my mind now and then. When it comes to things outside the box, I don’t just believe in them because it is cool or anti-establishment or because I want them to be true or because the government lies sometimes. I greatly prefer at least two independent verifications.

      And I believe that this whole world is God’s dream, an illusion, and that only God, the Infinite Ocean of Consciousness is Real.

  9. Craig Binns Says:

    You can believe anything you like about a god having a snooze and dreaming up the world. The question is, did it dream about cold fusion? That has to be determined by observation, dream or no dream! And when it’s determined we still won’t know if the universe is a dream or a reality. Needless to say I hold the latter view, but if any god wants me to change my mind, presumably he/ she/ it has the power to make me do so!

    • Simon Derricutt Says:

      What happens when that god wakes up and switches the alarm clock off?

    • Roger Bird Says:

      Craig Binns, I am proud of you. That was actually bordering on being polite and may even have been funny.

      My point about our lives being God’s dream is that I don’t take it too seriously. And you are absolutely right about observation. We still have to proof things scientifically.

      Part of the theology is that you are also God dreaming that you and your world are real. (This has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with whether LENR is real or not, and I was positive before I brought it up that you are and will always remain a stone atheist.) The only thing real is consciousness and caring/consideration for others.

    • brucefast Says:

      Craig, “Needless to say I hold the latter view, but if any god wants me to change my mind, presumably he/ she/ it has the power to make me do so!”

      A scientific data, real scientists formally publishing and producing hour long infomercials doesn’t do it, the only one that stands a chance will be he/ she/ it — or a product for sale in Home Depot.

    • Greg Goble Says:

      whoa hold on there fellas… surreal or not we be the debated god… dess… est! Goddest what a concept… please be quiet, meditate and shut the ### up with a smile of mischeviousness smeared on your faces. So much fun,,, NOT.

      Nice rant and I can do even better. Knowledge evolves. Religion evolves. Instinct evolves. Organization evolves. Perception evolves. Society evolves. Productivity evolves. Philosophy evolves. Humanity evolves. Information evolves. CraigRogerSimonGregIggy evolves. LENRScience evolves. Oh God. Patiently awaiting with warm regards and electrifying anticipation. Give thanks.

  10. Iggy Dalrymple Says:

    Another scientific use for microwave oven:

    Quick-Cooking Nanomaterials for Tomorrow’s Solid-State Air Conditioners and Refrigerators

    http://www.rpi.edu/about/inside/issue/v6n1/microwave.html

  11. Greg Goble Says:

    http://philadelphia.pointslocal.com/story/philadelphia/733133/-guest-column-saving-alcator-c-mod

    This is something significant… billions invested… now an abrupt end. Presidential decision… unpopular… AT this time. Will a future explanation for this decision include a presidential report on LENR science and energy devices? Solid popular plank for the upcoming election?

    Rossi now announces a 15 megawatt electrical generator utilizing steam from a 50 megawatt LENR ecat unit. http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/03/rossi-eyes-15-mw-plant-in-pursuit-of-self-sustaining-e-cat/

    • brucefast Says:

      The end of the MIT hot fusion research project is interesting. There is definitely a belief that the MIT hot fusion folks were at the heart of the Pons and Fleischmann smear. Hopefully this will spur MIT on to cold fusion research. It could be that their cold fusion research is responsible for this change.

    • Iggy Dalrymple Says:

      My comment to “The Tech Online” re: Loss of the Alcator Program;

      “Time to shift attention to the 900 lb gorilla in the room….cold fusion.”

  12. Bertuswonkel Says:

    Interesting video. The comments are less interesting though. Why has nobody actually tried to replicate this experiment? It seem not that hard to do. It will try to get an old micro wave and replicate the experiment. Think it might be fun to do. Hope others will join me!

  13. Olle Welin Says:

    I was test this at home and yes the expriment work BUT the magnetic substance come from: The PENCIL rods. Test to crunch a 0.7mm pencil rod and put that powder on a paper, move a strong magnet under the paper and look what happend. My crunched pencil rod was obveouse magnetic. See my videos on “Nissearne12″ at youtube. Best regards Olle Welin Sweden olle_welin@hotmail.com

    • Simon Derricutt Says:

      Thanks for doing this Olle – my pencil rods (called leads here) are not magnetic, but they are rather old. I didn’t try the experiment since I was certain it was a hoax – no point blowing a good microwave to find out. The main point is that the guy did not test all his ingredients with the magnet first – well spotted.

    • Iggy Dalrymple Says:

      “Graphite is diamagnetic, meaning that it tends to avoid magnetic field. Many materials are slightly diamagnetic. Graphite is one of the best choices for levitation. Its diamagnetic susceptibility is small on an absolute scale, but larger than most other materials. It is also very light. The best diamagnetic material is a superconductor; it is
      in fact “perfect”. It is very easy to levitate with superconductors, but it is not necessarily easy to find liquid nitrogen.”

      http://groups.mrl.uiuc.edu/chiang/Chiang/Magnetic%20Levitation.htm

  14. Iggy Dalrymple Says:

    Hot-Cat Test: http://www.scribd.com/doc/105322688/Penon4-1

    Temperature Data: http://www.scribd.com/doc/105325449/Hot-Cat-Data

    • Simon Derricutt Says:

      Thanks, Iggy. As before, it’s estimates on what the power output was based on what they think the emissivity is. The test needs to be done in a calorimeter in order to measure the output. This is the sort of test that you’d do as a first check, but you’d never publish data like this. At the moment I don’t feel like spending the time on the maths to prove this absolutely – I’m sure that someone else (more current on getting the calculations right) will get annoyed enough to spend the effort, and will publish it.

      Still, it may convince some people.

  15. Neil Farbstein Says:

    certain forms of carbon are magnetic. this guy is making magnetic graphite and passing it off as transmutation.

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  20. SomeGuy Says:

    Seems to me the carbon is experiencing room temperature super conductivity. The meisner affect is what is moving the carbon around. I still think transmutation is possible:)

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