Swartz Slays Snake!

Dr, Swartz, “Just when cold fusion scientists thought it might be safe to emerge from their laboratories, along comes major mischief-maker Steve Krivit (‘New Energy Times’) to spin facts into fiction.”

I don’t want to editorialize Dr. Swartz’s fine writing too much.  I’ll only add the question, we know cats have 9 lives, how many lives does a snake have?   Please read Dr. Swartz’s slaughter of the snake here.

Oh, um, the link provides some actual data from the MIT demo!

Aaand, “prior to publication” is found in that document.  That sounds like there’ll be more news to come.  Hopefully it’ll be published in one of those scientific journals than none of us common folk get to read — followed by articles on the front page of “Time”.  (Ok, so I’m a bit of a dreamer.)

Thanks to ecatworld.com for the heads up.

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18 Responses to “Swartz Slays Snake!”

  1. brucefast Says:

    Hyperion Independent Testing: Defkalion Swamped With Applications

    I considered making a fresh post for this one, but thought it’d swamp the Swartz news. So here’s the scoop. This takes from Defkalion the possibility of stalling because they can’t find someone to do the testing.

  2. Simon Derricutt Says:

    I read Krivit’s attack, and thought that the graphs he attached showed clearly that Swartz had done exactly what he claimed, though it’s a shame the resolution was not up to reading the time data easily. 12mW in, 78mW out seems pretty good to me. Scale up from there.

    Those scientific journals charge $20-$50 to read one of their papers. I can’t afford to read them, so it’s good that the data gets published other ways.

  3. Roger Bird Says:

    You guys might check this out: http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/294046/20120207/acoustic-fusion-potentially-ggreen-inexpensive-virtually-inexhaustible.htm

    It is about acoustic fusion. As interesting as it looks, I did see some BS in the article concerning funding and how advanced they are. With LANR, I have become skilled at seeing BS.

    • Bob Norman Says:

      Roger, thanks for the link. I personally am a believer in acoustic/bubble fusion. Purdue, RPI and DARPA all have done a lot of work in this area. If you believe in W-L theory, any way of forcing atoms together in close proximity with the right energy has the potential for cold Fusion. Not a Scientific answer, but it just feel right to me. If this turns out to work it could be a source for big hydro CF generators.

    • Simon Derricutt Says:

      Also NASA at Glen Research Centre, and they tell you how they do it. July 9 2007 file AIAA5596 JPC07.ppt. Sorry I haven’t the link for this. Since sonofusion seems to be the basis of the Griggs water-heater (appears that COP>1 for real there) and you can do this experiment in the back shed if you want, it’s certainly on the list of possibles. But as Roger says, the presentation has too much BS to be well-developed at this time. They think that using high water pressure and high acoustic pressure should give them better results. A bit of pressure may help, but not as much as they think, in my opinion, since the Van der Waal’s forces are stronger by far. Better to make sure the cavitation happens in contact with a suitable lattice that has Hydrogen absorbed. I think they are trying to make it happen in solution, and it ain’t gonna happen easily like that.

      I think acoustic “fusion” is a real effect, but needs a lot more work to make it an effective competitor to Nickel/Hydrogen as regards size, complexity, and temperature achieved.

      • brucefast Says:

        I’m totally with your last paragraph. I’d be a little stronger, suggesting that acoustic ‘fusion’ will never seriously compete with Nickel/Hydrogen. It may, however, find special applications. It also certainly has value as a scientific phenomenon.

      • Simon Derricutt Says:

        One niche use for it would be to convert wind-power (or other free rotational power) to heat to drive a motor+generator (or central heating). Use the rotation to spin a Nickel-plated rotor in water. The rotor is sculpted to produce cavitation. The rotor plating gets gradually eaten away, the water heats up more than the normal rotational energy would imply.
        It still uses Nickel, but doesn’t need the initial electricity available to kick-start it. Not useful in sub-zero temperatures!
        Being mechanical, it’s pretty well bound to cost more and be less reliable. But yes, it is interesting.

      • Bob Says:

        Simon, I built a bunch on concentric cylinders with pin holes and applied high pressure and forced the water through the cylinders. The cylinders rotated in opposite directions and had very small spacing between cylinders. I achieved 80 degrees C
        on the output with a small amount of steam.
        I’m in the process of redesigning after seeing it work, nothing like real things to observe. I think the next one will give much better results. When I get that I will try figuring out the Pin/Pout
        of the system.
        The usage off a wind turbine is interesting. I may try that once I get it working like I want. The gearing is a real headache.

      • Simon Derricutt Says:

        Bob – that is really good news that one of us has a working device. Calorimetry is going to be difficult and takes a while to set up, unless you get a really good ratio of Pin to Pout, where experimental error can be large and still not matter.

        Nothing like real things to measure – I agree. Can you see the bubble size produced? If you can make sure the bubbles collapse in contact with the (Nickel?) surface then it looks like you may achieve better results. Maybe a rippled surface (such as seen on a lake with a light wind) will achieve this better than the pinholes. Just a suggestion since I haven’t the time currently to play with this one. I do think it is promising, has real potential and is good physics, though.

        Gearing using a generator and small fast electric motor may prove to have less loss and be cheaper than mechanical gearing. Much quicker to set up, too.

      • Roger Bird Says:

        I thought that you should hook your bicycle up to it and see what you can do with just your own energy.

      • Simon Derricutt Says:

        Roger – that may also be one of Bruce’s niche applications. How many watts from a bike – unless you are Tour de France it’s probably about 100W sustained, maybe 300W for short times. I don’t know, so guesstimate there. With a COP of 20 or so should be enough to heat a house, plus you also get the internal warmth from the exercise.

      • Roger Bird Says:

        Simon, I am 66 but in absurdly good health. I can do about 176 watts for about 20 minutes. At a COP = 10, I could heat my house…..for 20 minutes.

        But think of the fun you can have. You can get all of the members of the household exercising and contributing to the reduction of greenhouse gases, unless of course if they are farting while they are pedaling. (:->) But, seriously, your CO2 exhalation will increase while exercising. But I don’t really care about CO2 exhaust except to capture it for my plants, who love it.

  4. Iggy Dalrymple Says:

    The eKitty will be in the wheel hub.

    • Roger Bird Says:

      Dear Iggy,

      Are you serious? Do you mean like those electric car makers who put the electric motors in the wheel hub.

      If so, it is an interesting idea. But that will be decades away because of the instability of the e-kitties.

    • alaincoe Says:

      the eKitty, not the Hyperion are not designed for bike-assis.
      Bikers are 100W if cycling quietly, 200W if pumping strong with some experience, 300W start for amateur racers, 500W for champions.

      bikeassis is only needed in climbing, or with cargo/passenger trailer, to run above walking speed, not far from safe higher speed, like 15-25kph, thus 200-300W for usual 5%…
      and it is not needed for all the time.
      a modest battery of (50-200Wh) with an hybrid LENR-electric, could do the job.
      at that size, rough LENR reactor of 1-2kW with inefficient Stirling could do the job in 3-10kg, to produce 100-200W to recharge the battery and help the driver. the weight looks huge, but with an assist not a problem.

      I would even be interested for a stronger, heavier engine, because I use a trailer for cargo and one for baby.

      with assist, one could design heavy trailer for older kids, and maybe for taxi. lower speed, but not far from real speed in real traffic (average car speed is below 15kph, and cyclist like me at 18kph average are faster in non highway roads, even respecting the road code)

      • Iggy Dalrymple Says:

        I was just fantasizing about futuristic miniaturized LENR devices. Some day they may replace batteries.

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