Has LENR uncovered a new Physics?

On December 26, one “Mr X” posted the following on ecatnews.com:

Nuclear physicist professor Peter Ekstöm, known for criticizing the E-Cat and LENR wrote:(Translated by me)
-Stoyan Sarges article is really impressive! He can with simple pictures explain so that everybody can understand all LENR reactions that have been observed. They include a full TOE (theory of everything, all four forces joined, something that Einstein tried all his life) and an explanation of the universe’s accelerating expansion (relevant to the current year’s Nobel Prize in Physics).

I will return with a more detailed review of Sarges article

Stoyan Sarges article: http://vixra.org/pdf/1112.0043v2.pdf



A single theory that explains:

  • All LENR,
  • A full TOE (theory of everything, all four forces joined)
  • An explanation of the universe’s accelerating expansion (ie: dark energy).

If this is so, then physics is about to experience a MAJOR transformation.

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38 Responses to “Has LENR uncovered a new Physics?”

  1. brucefast Says:

    Yes, Peter Thieberger, I would love it if you would digest the source material: http://vixra.org/pdf/1112.0043v2.pdf It is waaay beyond my grade level. Is this guy full of it, or is he on to something? Does his hypothesis open the doors to the NI + H reaction? Does it get us past the coulomb barrier?

    • Bob Says:

      Most interesting. I think its over my pay grade also! It does have nice pictures though, that alone makes it worth reading.
      It will be interesting to see what the PHD Physics guys all think of this. I read it and think it makes sense, but that doesn’t have much value so I will wait for the heavy thinkers to weigh in and then jump on the most popular sentiments. Then again I may just see what Marry YuGo says and go opposite, that’s probably safer.

  2. Mr X Says:

    He fooled us :(


    • brucefast Says:

      Are you the same “Mr X” that wrote the original that I quoted above?

      Secondly, it is difficult to follow google translations, however the author of the document you site seems to be a hack to me. While I am hardly one to validate the theory originally sited, I also am not about to consider it bupkus because one other very negative guy said so.

  3. Bob Says:

    In the paper it talked about cavitation. I believe bubbles tie into this in a big way. When CF is understood I think it will be created in many ways and material. Bubbles producing light and Heat with Tritium traces sure looks like a fusion reaction to me. Below are some articles about this subject. The first one is quite interesting in that more energy is possible with this than TNT and a reactor methodology.





    • brucefast Says:

      Yes, the more I read about LENR, the more I am convinced that cavitation is one way of achieving it. I expect that when Ni + H is theoretically understood, cavitation will also be understood.

      I am not convinced that cavitation can produce enough energy gains to be commercially useful, however. Remember, we need somewhere in the order of 3x power gain to convert heat to electricity. Further Rossi, with very inexpensive materials, is getting a near infinite gain. Ni + H will be very hard to beat in the marketplace.

      • Bob Says:

        You might be right, but the first article talks about some pretty significant power being possible. It hints at having bubbled material created by a cavitation generator and that being bombarded with a laser to produce heat. This is close to what Ahern was doing in his patent. In that patent he created waves that stirred the material and that was hit with high density electrical pulses. Substitute bubble for particle and you have about the same thing.

    • Iggy Dalrymple Says:

      “Acoustic Fusion Touted as Green, Cheap, Virtually Inexhaustible Energy Source”


    • Iggy Dalrymple Says:

      Vascular Plants

      Cavitation occurs in the xylem of vascular plants when the tension of water within the xylem becomes so great that dissolved air within the water expands to fill either the vessel elements or tracheids. Plants are generally able to repair cavitated xylem in a number of ways. For plants less than 50 cm tall, root pressure can be sufficient to redissolve air. For larger plants, they must repair cavitation by importing solutes into the xylem via ray cells, or in tracheids, via osmosis through bordered pits; this causes water to enter as well, which can then redissolve the air. In some trees, the sound of the cavitation is clearly audible, particularly in summer, when the rate of evapotranspiration is highest, and can be used to determine the rate of cavitation. Deciduous trees shed leaves in the autumn partly because cavitation increases as temperatures decrease.”


      • Iggy Dalrymple Says:

        Hydraulic Ram Water Lift.
        Kinetic hydraulic force can be use to lift water higher than the source. I don’t think this involves cavitation but it is similar to water-hammer. No power other than gravity required.

      • Craig Binns Says:

        Iggy, are you suggesting that devices for extracting energy from flowing water – hydraulic rams, or traditional water wheels – put out more energy than they take in, because they can raise part of their water outflow higher than the level of the inflow?

        What is the point you are trying to make about these devices?

      • Iggy Dalrymple Says:

        No Craig, the kinetic energy of a larger column of falling water is translated into lifting a smaller column to a higher level, at least that’s how I think it works. It’s an old device and used worldwide. I’ve never seen one but my good friend has. The terrain here in Florida is too flat to make much use of a ram lift.

      • Iggy Dalrymple Says:

        My point is that it’s still a slow news day.

  4. brucefast Says:

    On Hoax, Peter Thieberger has clearly expressed that there is significant experimental data that is not compatible with this hypothesis. I am prepared to believe him. Bummer.

  5. Iggy Dalrymple Says:

    “Dr. Swartz showed videos of his latest cold fusion driven Stirling engines. They appear to have undergone changes, with an increase in excess power by about a factor of ten since he first showed them at the MIT Colloquium in 2005. Dr. Swartz must be commended for his persistence and genius in identifying key parameters and results associated with performing new and forefront forms of measurements that will be invaluable for advancing our understanding of the associated phenomena.”

    August 2007 Colloquium on Lattice-Assisted Nuclear Reactions in Deuterated Metals was held on August 18, 2007 in Room 34-101 at MIT in Cambridge, Massachusetts. The event was organized by MIT Prof. Peter Hagelstein, Dr. Mitchell Swartz, Gayle Verner, and others from JET Energy Advanced Systems and Concepts.


  6. iggydalrymple Says:

    Jones Beene on vortex

    Jones Beene Thu, 06 Jun 2013 20:35:29 -0700

    —–Original Message—–
    From: pagnu…@htdconnect.com

    A new arxiv paper, possibly related to missing LENR em-emissions –
    “Superabsorption of light via quantum engineering”

    ABSTRACT: Almost 60 years ago Dicke introduced the term superradiance to
    describe a signature quantum effect: N atoms can collectively emit light
    at a rate proportional to N^2… Structures that super-radiate must also
    have enhanced absorption…

    Robert Dicke is one of the true heroes of Modern Science. He is not
    generally credited with inventing the laser but in 1956 Dicke filed a patent
    entitled “Molecular Amplification Generation Systems and Methods” with a
    claim for an infrared laser. Townes usually gets the credit, but his patent
    was not filed until 1958.

    B.V. Zhdanov has done extensive work on potassium lasers, so we know this is possible. There is a pretty good chance that the Rossi HotCat is a resonant IR device using potassium stimulated emission, which may involve superabsorption and superradiance. This could be a photon chain reaction of some type/ http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg82716.html

  7. Craig Binns Says:


    “There is a pretty good chance that the Rossi HotCat is a resonant IR device using potassium stimulated emission, which may involve superabsorption and superradiance. This could be a photon chain reaction of some type.” Wow! Maybe he should resubmit his patent application! A pretty good chance … which may involve … some type … Eh? Great!

  8. Craig Binns Says:


    Thank you. Now I believe … or whatever.

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    estimate that worldwide about 26 million units have been
    sold thus far.

  10. Craig Binns Says:

    Hi Ina! Your community is in the Rossi e-cat niche? Tell them not to worry about these pesky gamma rays. Rossi has magicked them all away with his secret catalyst.

    • iggydalrymple Says:

      Craig, my cousin felt the same way about the “horseless carriage”. He got stuck with a warehouse full of horse collars. But I doubt you’re the entrepreneurial type, so you’ll likely not lose more than face.

      • Craig Binns Says:


        I “will” lose face, eh? When “will” that happen? When gamma rays start coming out of e-cats?

      • iggydalrymple Says:

        Craig, if you know so much, why don’t you offer your services to ELFORSK AB? ELFORSK is the research organization representing several large electric utilities in Northern Europe.

        I suspect they spent a considerable sum helping finance the recent test and are on the verge of financing a much more expensive 6 month test. I’m sure they would appreciate your scientific input. You would be like the little boy that shouted, “The Emperor has no clothes”.


      • Craig Binns Says:


        Will Elforsk find gamma rays this time?

      • iggydalrymple Says:

        They probably don’t understand the significance of gamma rays. That would be your job. Yes, I know the story. This is your big chance to save the empire.

      • Craig Binns Says:


        ‘You would be like the little boy that shouted, “The Emperor has no clothes”’.

        You flatter me. Have you forgotten the story? A gang of scammers con everyone into thinking or pretending that they can see wonderful clothes, but there is nothing there really. A good description of Rossi’s activities! But the little boy innocently believes the evidence of his own senses, and exposes the scam. Iggy, that boy is the HERO of the story and the other people are knaves and fools.

        So thanks again for casting me in that rôle. I hope I will be worthy of it.

  11. Craig Binns Says:

    Hi All

    No new input except weird scam or spam emails. I wonder if that means mainstream science has passed Rossi by. Anyway these spammers and mainstream scientists will soon be eating crow, or eating my Glasgow bunnet, when the Ecat is unveiled – any time now! And then we can heat our bedrooms in winter for next to nothing and send spaceships to the furthest planets for the cost of a piece of nickel. Like five cents.

    How I look forward to that!

    • iggydalrymple Says:

      Craig, the latest news is that Rossi’s mentor and advisor, Sergio Focardi, died during the night.

    • alaincoe Says:

      no, they will invent LENR


      and you will eat the crow.

      history is written by those losers.

      • Craig Binns Says:

        It’s a long time coming, that crow. I’m getting tired of waiting for service! But in any case the issue is not simply LENR. I find LENR most improbable, as well as unproven. But what I reject absolutely as a fraud or delusion are Rossi and his contraptions. Rossi is going to write no new history. He’s simply adding another chapter to his own history of failed and disastrous energy projects.

      • iggydalrymple Says:

        Craig, this technology is advancing rapidly. It just seems slow, peeking in through a keyhole. Think back a couple of years, at Rossi’s crude copper fittings and the trickle of steamy water. Compare to the recent test with a red-hot reactor, even white-hot on the failed test. Now with multiple professors attesting to the E-Cat’s performance. I cannot understand how you continue to hold your stubborn view.

      • Craig Binns Says:


        Lots and lots of people hold my view! Haven’t you googled this up recently?

    • iggydalrymple Says:

      Yes, lots & lots hold your view, but less and less as a %.

      • Craig Binns Says:


        So what % then?

      • iggydalrymple Says:

        I don’t know but I have no doubt that you are of the incredible shrinking mindset.

      • Craig Binns Says:

        Iggy, and others:

        As far as Rossi is concerned, and Defkalion, I think we can now say that no further substantive news is ever going to come from these sources. There have been far too many lies and disappointments. Only a few deluded enthusiasts are able to take them seriously, and Rossi’s ravings have become ludicrous, as have his stories about sales and manufactures, when nobody can show even the existence of any manufacturing facility, and he has been lying for years about heating premises with ecats, producing copper from nickel, shielding gamma rays, and so on. The “independent” test, conducted by old cronies on a machine to which they did not have free access (and which was attached to the electric power supply) in premises controlled by Rossi, has convinced very few people. This blog now attracts only a few extreme enthusiasts who are possessed of contrarian opinions on a wide range of issues, and who treat futuristic wish fantasies as if they were solid reality. It is a pity, but I think the Rossi affair is now over. Gradually this will now all fade away until it is replaced by some new free energy enthusiasm.

        The LENR researchers will carry on researching, spinning theories and producing tiny, tantalising effects at or near the limits of detectability, but I hold out little hope that they are about to overturn our understanding of nuclear physics.

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