If Replication is the Holy Grail …

If replication is the holy grail then it is time for skeptics, including those well versed in science, to jump on board.

At this website: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg53212.html you will read:

Apparently he [Dr. George Miley, University of Illinois] has been successfully replicating the Patterson cell results, and has extensive experimental data, and proposes a theory explaining Rossi/Patterson Ni-light water reactions. On this page is a link to a PowerPoint presentation (a bit frustrating as it lacks audio) where Dr. Miley discusses his work with Ni+H cold fusion. If Dr. Miley, at of a major American University has reproduced Ni+H reaction then the question of the scientific feasibility of this reaction is moot.

(Thanks to Iggy Dalrymple for putting me on to this.)

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86 Responses to “If Replication is the Holy Grail …”

  1. Iggy Dalrymple Says:

    (Replication of post from “What can we do to help the technology spread?”. Replication by admin).

    Cold Fusion is far from new. The Patterson Power Cell predated Pons & Fleishman.

    “With improvements made to the cell, it now was reported to be producing a significant amount of excess heat. Mr. Patterson is on record as saying it was producing 200 times over the input and some of those who saw the device demonstrated at the PowerGen Conference in 1995 reported heat output of up to 1000 times input. The Power Cell and James Patterson were featured on ABC’s Nightline and Good Morning America and were subject of a British television documentary (all of which have served as resource material for this article).”
    The problem was that they were never successful in mass producing the metallic beads.

  2. Iggy Dalrymple Says:

    The beads are complex. Assuming the eCat is legit, I don’t think Patterson’s beads can compete with the eCat.

    • brucefast Says:

      I think you’re right. However, the general phenomenon is the same. Its yet another validation of the scientific legitimacy of Rossi’s technology. Its also proof that the scientific community will ignore it even when an independent lab verifies it.

      Its clear that the only way to wake up the scientific community is to bring the technology to market. Then the scientific community will figure out how it works, and claim that they remain the only true source of truth.

  3. Bob Norman Says:

    I’m amazed how long the whole concept and evidence of Cold Fusion reactions have been around. It seems like an incredible capability that has thus far been lost to mankind.
    It appears the key to everything revolves around material science. That area of expertise has greatly improved in recent years, so I’m optimistic that this time around a full understanding will develop and advanced capabilities will evolve, making Rossi’s efforts look crude. The potential now uncovered is just too huge to be ignored or to continue to languish in the labs of a few, its time to become mainstream.

    • brucefast Says:

      “I’m amazed how long the whole concept and evidence of Cold Fusion reactions have been around. It seems like an incredible capability that has thus far been lost to mankind.”

      I have become ashamed of the scientific community for dropping the ball on this one, and Pons & Fleischmann … What is wrong with science if it rejects clearly presented phenomena because it doesn’t fit the data.

      “it appears the key to everything revolves around material science. … so I’m optimistic that this time around a full understanding will develop.”

      The material science thing may have allowed Patterson to get past the “mass production” hurdle. In fact, if he had access to it the nano-powdered nickel itself may have made the difference for him. It does seem clear that he was seeking to do what Rossi is doing, bringing product to market. After all, that is what is going to get past the gatekeepers at science central.

  4. Peter Hunt Says:

    The missed opportunity was an orchestrated denial of data . The highest of scientific sins.

    The grey beards and silver backs of the physicists found the results outside their mental models and so rejected them and so ridiculed and humiliated Fleischmann and Pons.

    This was self protection as a mode of defense of their senior positions. “I am smart, I do not understand so it is not real and must be error of fraud.”

    This attitude has cost humanity greatly and deserves condemnation and at least apology. This is not science this is true distortion of reality.

    We must learn to celebrate the anomaly as a signpost to better understanding. A new path to scientific truth.

  5. Iggy Dalrymple Says:

    LENR research goes as far back as the 1940s. If more attention and support had been given, 9-11 might never have happened. Thousands of lives might have been saved in the coal mines and oil fields. Millions more would have been spared the ravages of pollution.

  6. brucefast Says:

    And then there is this replication: http://energycatalyzer3.com/news/us-company-developing-cold-fusion-process-similar-to-rossi%E2%80%99s-energy-catalzyer
    Again, nickel plus hydrogen = excess heat. He may not be doing it the same way, but he is getting past the Coulomb barrier just as Rossi is.

    As discussed previously Piantelli also is getting a nickel+hydrogen reaction.

    How many replications will it take to prove to the great scientific community that nickel+hydrogen LENR is for real?

  7. Bob Norman Says:

    Pientelli has a full math model for what happens, he claims, and is predicting a 200x gain is possible with Nickel-Hydrogen. He is running a wide range of experiments to find the right combination of material to optimize that affect. The frustrating part is the lack of data or visibility on his efforts. Their have been statements to the affect that his company may go public as their way to obtain financing.
    Pientelli has developed a ceramic chamber for his experiments. He claims it gives better results.

    • Iggy Dalrymple Says:

      I could see where ceramic would be good for the heat but not
      so good for pressure. Maybe he uses ceramic coated metal.

      What would be interesting would be using an aluminum doped zinc oxide ceramic surface in hopes of producing thermoelectric power.

      • Bob Norman Says:

        Iggy, that might work out quite well. I wonder though, if you remove heat too fast it might make the operation hard to sustain.
        The whole thermoelectric issue sure has been active in new material as of late.

      • brucefast Says:

        While you are right that ceramics are good with heat but not so good with pressure, I think that the kind of pressures that are happening inside an e-cat are well within the range of what ceramics can handle.

        Certainly, as you suggested, there are also many ways to reinforce ceramics to get around this little problem.

      • Iggy Dalrymple Says:

        Maybe a thermostat could divert some of the harvested current to power a heating element, as needed.

  8. Anthony Scalzi Says:

    I came across this the other day and wondered if it could be playing some part in the reaction.

    “In 1929, physicist Oskar Klein[1] obtained a surprising result by applying the Dirac equation to the familiar problem of electron scattering from a potential barrier. In nonrelativistic quantum mechanics, electron tunneling into a barrier is observed, with exponential damping. However, Klein’s result showed that if the potential is on the order of the electron mass, eV ~ mc², the barrier is nearly transparent. Moreover, as the potential approaches infinity, the reflection diminishes and the electron is always transmitted.”

    I don’t know if it would apply to a proton overcoming an energy barrier the same way an electron overcomes an energy barrier.

    • brucefast Says:

      Very interesting, Anthony. This may prove to be a valuable piece when the physicists get past denial and seriously engage in figuring out how the ni+h reaction works.

  9. brucefast Says:

    Add this to the list of replications: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/GernertNnascenthyd.pdf
    In this report of a study done by or for the US Air Force back in 1993, they report excess heat from a nickel + hydrogen reaction.

  10. Iggy Dalrymple Says:

    As for the pressure, if there’s an outer water jacket, the steam pressure in the jacket would counteract the pressure inside the reactor.

    Ceramatec, the R&D arm of CoorsTek, is a leader in advanced ceramics and catalysts.

  11. Bob Norman Says:

    Pientelli is using ceramics in his testing. He has built a whole bunch of chambers so he can run experiments as to what gives the best reaction. It doesn’t appear that pressure is a big issue for him, then again I don’t know the details of what he is doing.

    As a side note, I a report a while back about Fusion being reported by people forcing water through very small holes. The output creates a shock wave and gets very hot. They believe the molecules are forced together under pressure creating a fusion affect. If I can find the paper I will post the link. It seems that any time hydrogen is given enough energy it crosses the coulomb barrier.

    • Iggy Dalrymple Says:

      Yes, there have cavitation water heaters on the commercial market for years, reportedly with up to 170% overunity.

      video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGqyzWQ8xwY&feature=related

      • brucefast Says:

        This is way to wierd!

        Over-unity from heat pumps is no big deal, they are literally pumping heat from one place to another. This does not challenge the 2nd law. However, over-unity from a cavitation process challenges the 2nd law. If cavitation produces over-unity it must either have a nuclear component to it (fusion or fission) or the 2nd law is challenged.

        This must be researched! Science must get to the bottom of this!

      • Bob Norman Says:

        Iggy, thanks for the link. I was somewhat aware of the cavitation heaters, but what I was talking about is true claim to fusion that has just recently been found. I will keep searching, its a most interesting write up with interesting pictures.

      • Iggy Dalrymple Says:

        Well, there was speculation that during cavitation, when a bubble collapses, there’s a spark of bright light, and the speculation was that the light was an indication of fusion.

      • Iggy Dalrymple Says:

        John Ernst Worrell Keely (September 3, 1837 – November 18, 1898) claimed to harness energy from what he called “sympathetic vibration” using water and air. Some now think he was dealing with cavitation.

        Etheric generator

        On November 10, 1874, Keely gave a demonstration of an “etheric generator” to a small group of people in Philadelphia. Keely blew into a nozzle for half a minute, then poured five gallons of tap water into the same nozzle. After some adjustments a pressure gauge indicated pressures of 10,000 psi which Keely said was evidence that the water had been disintegrated and a mysterious vapor had been liberated in the generator, capable of powering machinery. In subsequent demonstrations he kept changing the terminology he used, to “vibratory-generator” to a “hydro-pneumatic-pulsating-vacu-engine” to “quadruple negative harmonics”. It was later reported that the witnesses of the demonstration were so impressed that they formed a stock company, purchased patent rights for the six New England states, and paid $50,000 in cash for their share in the invention.[4]

        The New York Times reported in June 1875 that Keely’s new motive power was generated from cold water and air and evolved into a vapor “more powerful than steam, and considerably more economical”. It reported that Keely refused to disclose what the vapor was or how it was generated until he had taken out patents in “all the countries of the globe which issue patent rights” which was estimated would cost around $30,000.[4]

        Keely said that the discovery of this new energy source was accidental. He said that the apparatus by which it was generated was called a “generator” or “multiplicator”, from where it was then passed into a “receiver” and from there to the cylinders of a steam engine. The “generator” was reported as being about 3 ft (0.91 m), made of Austrian gunmetal in one piece, and holding about 10 or 12 gallons of water. Its inside was made up of cylindrical chambers connected by pipes and fitted with stopcocks and valves. The “receiver” or “reservoir” was about 40 in (1,000 mm) long by 6 in (150 mm) in diameter and connected to the “generator” by a 1 in (25 mm) diameter pipe. Keely claimed that his apparatus would generate his “vapor” from water solely by mechanical means without using any chemicals and claimed to be able to produce 2,000 psi in 5 seconds.[4]

    • Iggy Dalrymple Says:

      Some have argued that the Rayleigh-Plesset equation described above is unreliable for predicting bubble temperatures and that actual temperatures in sonoluminescing systems can be far higher than 20,000 kelvins. Some research claims to have measured temperatures as high as 100,000 kelvins, and speculates temperatures can reach into the millions of kelvins.[9] Temperatures this high could cause thermonuclear fusion. This possibility is sometimes referred to as bubble fusion.

      On January 27, 2006, researchers at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute claimed to have produced fusion in sonoluminescence experiments.

      • Bob Norman Says:

        Iggy, thanks for the link. This is what I was referring to. A very interesting subject in light of Rossi’s Cold Fusion. It would be great if this could be used to elevate the temperatures in Rossi’s reaction to run turbines at the high temperature.

      • Lorenzo Says:

        Check out the phenomena of the lowly Pistol Shrimp. High pressure created by it’s “snap” produces light.

      • Iggy Dalrymple Says:

        Yeah, I remember that. Something like the light flashes from Wintergreen Lifesavers.

        Some people claim they can hear popping caused by cavitation in tall trees during droughts.

  12. Bob Norman Says:

    I just saw this. National Instruments out of Austin has just signed an agreement with Rossi on producing instrumentation for control of the E-Cat. http://pesn.com/2011/11/10/9601953_National_Instruments_signs_to_do_E-Cat_controls/

    What is interesting, it says the Hydrogen pressure is what controls the reaction. We all sort of guested this was one of the knobs, but its good to get these things explicitly.

  13. Iggy Dalrymple Says:

    Peter Hagelstein, an MIT professor of electrical engineering and computer science and one of the most mainstream proponents of cold fusion research, thinks the process may involve vibrational energy in the metal’s lattice driving nuclear transitions that lead to fusion.

    There are several close connections between the E-Cat and other recent experimental results, Hagelstein said, noting that the excess power seems to respond to lattice spacing in both experiments, vacancies within the lattice (e.g., spots where the nickel atoms are missing) seem to be important in both, the excess power seems to increase with operating temperature in relevant operating regimes and other connections.

    “There is not sufficient reliable information available about the E-cat for a rational opinion to be made yet, in my view,” Hagelstein told Life’s Little Mysteries. But because of these consistencies, “I am of the view that Rossi’s claims probably should be taken seriously until such time as we have sufficient information that provides confirmation or refutation.”

    Rossi has formed a company, Leonardo Corp., which will produce and — he hopes — sell E-Cat machines.

    In the meantime, Hagelstein and other cold fusion researchers urge the skeptical scientific community to give cold fusion devices such as the E-Cat a closer look. “Are physicists generally, and DoE in particular, so sure that excess power in such experiments is impossible that the very large number of experimental results which show an excess heat effect clearly should continue to be ignored?” he asked.

    • brucefast Says:

      “I am of the view that Rossi’s claims probably should be taken seriously until such time as we have sufficient information that provides confirmation or refutation.”

      Isn’t it interesting that some recommend rejection until confirmation or refutation is complete, but he recommends taking the claims seriously.

      I am of the growing mind that the cost of the knee-jerk “reject it” is ever so much higher than the cost of the knee-jerk “take it seriously”.

  14. Roger Bird Says:

    I want every comment on this website. How do I do that?

  15. brucefast Says:

    I believe that you throw up a comment, and click the two check boxes below it:
    Notify me of follow-up comments, and
    Notify me of new posts.

  16. Rockyspoon Says:

    Face it, science advances one funeral at a time. That’s a very sad thing to say, but it’s true. Most scientists are so stolid in their opinions they are unteachable. But time marches on and the “old guard” of irracible, pudgy graybeards are slipping into oblivion. It is up to the younger generation to make sure this new energy source doesn’t go ignored.

  17. Louis Tengzelius Says:

    The race is on. Here is another embryo. A home electrical 5 kw power plant for $5000. I’m ready to purchase one. Are you? See the Bingde comment at: http://coldfusionnow.wordpress.com/2011/11/04/first-commercial-cold-fusion-steam-heat-generator-for-sale/#comment-1895
    Suddenly the cause of large exothermic abnormalities which occurred during my classified endeavors at the Wm. H. Chandler Laboratory in 1952 crystallize into clarity. Continuing puzzling results at Metal Hydrides Inc. while working on a variety of exotic areas including the super fuel pentaborane continued to plague me begging for explanations. The New Physics founded by insights of Wladimir Guglinski provide a new path through troubled waters of the 20 th century patch quilt of theory. At my age it is tempting to jump back into the race with marketing a 25 hp boat unit and motor a world circumnavigation without refueling on a 25 ‘ or so cruiser to promote the product.

  18. brucefast Says:

    Bob Norman provided me with this link: http://citi5.org/launch/?p=1826 It claims that a major announcement about LENR will be coming on December 7. There is a lot of interesting material in there, including a Japanese name, Yashiaki Arata.

    A quick google search comes up with this:
    “In 2008 Yashiaki Arata, Japan’s most decorated scientist, made a major announcement aboutenergy release from nanopowders infused with hydrogen.”

    There’s more holy grail to be had out there. The dam is bursting. Craig Binns will be eating his Glasgow bunnet (whatever that is) in the not too distant future.

  19. Craig Binns Says:

    A Japanese name … decorated scientist … nanopowders … major announcement “will be coming” … Holy Grail. Wow.

    I’ll just wait ’till I see even one photon of magic power produced by this impressive-sounding outfit before I start believing, if you don’t mind.

    This energy which “will be coming” is like the White Queen’s promised “jam tomorrow”. When (or if) it arrives I “will be eating” the headgear to which you refer.

  20. Awesome Says:

    Looks like a major breakthrough by Chan. See the Chan method blog at: http://www.buildecat.com/
    Almost like throwing logs into a stove but the logs do not disappear, they just keep on burning.

  21. Iggy Dalrymple Says:

    What’s an RFG? Radio Frequency Generator?

  22. Iggy Dalrymple Says:

    NASA scientist files patent app mentioning metal hydride, frequencies, and LENR:
    Inventors: Zawodny; Joseph M.; (Poquoson, VA)
    Assignee: USA as represented by the Administrator of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration

    Serial No.: 070552
    Series Code: 13
    Filed: March 24, 2011

    12. A method of making a device that produces heavy electrons, comprising the steps of: selecting a metal hydride having a resonant frequency associated therewith for a given operational environment; forming a structure that includes a non-electrically-conductive material and said metal hydride, said structure incorporating said metal hydride at least at a surface of said structure, wherein a geometry of said structure supports propagation of surface plasmon polaritons at a selected frequency that is approximately equal to said resonant frequency of said metal hydride; and applying energy to a portion of said structure to induce propagation of said surface plasmon polaritons at said portion, wherein heavy electrons are produced at said metal hydride as said surface plasmon polaritons propagate along said structure.

    [0006] Heavy electrons exhibit properties such as unconventional superconductivity, weak antiferromagnetism, and pseudo metamagnetism. More recently, the energy associated with “low energy nuclear reactions” (LENR) has been linked to the production of heavy electrons. Briefly, this theory put forth by Widom and Larsen states that the initiation of LENR activity is due to the coupling of “surface plasmon polaritons” (SPPs) to a proton or deuteron resonance in the lattice of a metal hydride. The theory goes on to describe the production of heavy electron that undergo electron capture by a proton. This activity produces a neutron that is subsequently captured by a nearby atom transmuting it into a new element and releasing positive net energy in the process. See A. Windom et al. “Ultra Low Momentum Neutron Catalyzed Nuclear Reactions on Metallic Hydride Surface,” European Physical Journal C-Particles and Fields, 46, pp. 107-112, 2006, and U.S. Pat. No. 7,893,414 issued to Larsen et al. Unfortunately, such heavy electron production has only occurred in small random regions or patches of sample materials/devices. In terms of energy generation or gamma ray shielding, this limits the predictability and effectiveness of the device. Further, random-patch heavy electron production limits the amount of positive net energy that is produced to limit the efficiency of the device in an energy generation application.

    [0032] The advantages of the present invention are numerous. Devices/systems made in accordance with the present invention control the frequency of the SPP resonance and its uniformity over large surface or volume regions. This will allow an entire device to participate in heavy electron production and ensuing energy generation. The present invention is adaptable to a variety of physical states/geometries and is scalable in size thereby making it available for energy production in a wide variety of applications (e.g., hand-held and large scale electronics, automobiles, aircraft, surface ships, electric power generation, rockets, etc.)

    all way over my head

  23. Bob Norman Says:

    Interesting that it addresses resonant frequencies, but its very broad in its claims. If this is approved it will be reduced in scope.

  24. Awesome Says:

    Chan did it again. http://www.buildecat.com/blog_detail/building-e-cat-3.html
    I think I will attempt to make that oil dispersion, dilute it 20 to 1 and try it in my old Diesel tractor. It might be the birth of a super fusion fuel giving 10,000 miles per gallon.

  25. brucefast Says:

    Another replication: SRI reports excess heat from Ni + H reaction. near beginning of

    That’s at least 6!

    • Roger Bird Says:

      It will be impossible for me to disbelieve in cold fusion. But like I said, Rossi is and will remain on probation until we can get much more solid evidence other that sentences that start with “Rossi said”.

      One sad note about all this is that I will be inclined to hate my government for being so STUPID and WRONG (again) about supporting hot fusion so enthusiastically when it is obvious that if that money was poured into cold fusion we might actually get some place.

      • Bob Norman Says:

        Our government works off lobbyists and bribes. There was too much riding with out to do the right thing. Even if this is the magic fix for the worlds energy problems, it will be hindered buy oil interest, but just as much by government with its tax revenue and lobbyist money.
        I love our country, but have come to hate our government. Watch, they will mess this up.

      • brucefast Says:

        Bob, I am afraid that you may be right. However, other countries, like China, have very little downside to implementing this technology. If the “first world” resists, it will only serve to give the emerging world a leg up. As the first world is economically devastated anyway, it’ll just speed up the process of power re-balancing that will inevitably take place.

      • brucefast Says:

        Nice to see you take one objection off of the table. However, as Peter Thieberger has stated, Ponds and Fleischmann style cold fusion is much more palatable than the Ni + H reaction. There have now been at least 6 reports of independant Ni + H reactions, two coming from physicists who work with well-healed institutions. Are you prepared to believe that the Ni + H reaction is valid?

        If so, to doubt that Rossi has achieved this is to say that Rossi detected the truth of the Ni + H reaction, faked it, and had others produce it inspired by his work (esp. Defkalion and Chan). If this is the case then Rossi deserves the Nobel in marketing (I know, they’ll need a new category) for bringing this miraculous technology which was hidden in top-end American labs to light.

        I personally find it illogical to believe that Ni + H works, but Rossi’s technology does not.

      • Roger Bird Says:

        brucefast, why would palladium work but nickel wouldn’t. Nickel is in the same periodic table column as palladium. This means that it has a lighter nucleus and missing an entire orbit of electrons. It seems to me that nickel would work just like palladium only better. Please correct me if I am wrong.

        And you said that Ni + H has been shown to work. Could you please show me? I did pass through Missouri once or twice.

      • brucefast Says:

        “why would palladium work but nickel wouldn’t.” The two reactions are thought to be very different. In the Pons and Fleischmann experiment they are using “heavy water” (where the hydrogen is made of a proton, a neutron and an electron — normal hydrogen doesn’t have a neutron). They believe that the heavy hydrogen is fusing to create H3 (super-heavy hydrogen) or helium. In the Ni + H model, they are using normal hydrogen. They believe that the Nickel is being converted to copper.

        “And you said that Ni + H has been shown to work.” Please see the post “If Replication is the Holy Grail…” Now, nobody has put one on display like Rossi did, but two top scientists, one from the U. of Indiana and the other from SRI both publicly state that they have made and measured the reaction.

      • Roger Bird Says:

        Here’s the thing…. People who are new to all of this, like I was when I first got here, think that Rossi is like all alone. Well, many but not all will remember Pons and Fleishmann, but that is about it. And, of course, the reputation of F & P doesn’t exactly help. They don’t realize that Rossi is just the latest of many people who have been getting success with cold fusion and nickel fusion. The only difference with Rossi is that he is ready to go to market, or at least he says that he is. brucefast, the next time that you get a newby, you should send them a few study courses with the history of cold and nickel fusion. Really.

  26. Bob Norman Says:

    Here is a very interesting article. It talks about a new state of matter and bubbles bursting to give off high energy. This is a continuation of the cavitation topic above. Sure seems to be a lot of things pointing to a cold fusion process happening. Hopefully someone will crack the code. This is an interesting read.


  27. Bob Norman Says:

    Here is a link to the Ahern patent. This is AMAZING. I think I understand how this stuff works!!!


  28. Awesome Says:

    Now here is one Awesome explanation of the H Ni fusion process. “Theory is crystallizing. Nickel lattice in nano size aligned. RFG not only reduces degrees of freedom of Fe and Ni to reversing on single axis but most important oscillates the e + p + e hydride ion along the same axis to minimize Helical Trajectory of electrons as a study of the Guglinski Quantum Ring Theory suggests. See the practical applications to LENR as commented by Chan here: http://www.buildecat.com/article_detail/brian-ahern-and-nano-magnetism-3.html
    Hydride ion injected into Ni lattice and when saturated, a cascade results in fusion followed by well discussed stabilization through radioactive decay.” which I found at http://coldfusionnow.wordpress.com/2011/11/04/first-commercial-cold-fusion-steam-heat-generator-for-sale/#comment-2055
    under Tengzelius. Looks as if complex + complex + complex + complex = simplicity.

  29. brucefast Says:

    Yet another replication. This by Francesco Celani, a leading Italian physicist who works at his country’s National Institute of Nuclear Physics (Italy’s equivalent of Los Alamos). He has announced success in producing the Ni + H reaction, and obtaining 200% excess thermal energy.

    We are now to 12.

    • Bob Says:

      It would seem to me that Celini’s replication of heat with N-H would be good evidence for Rossi to present to the patent office in validating his claims. The evidence for the patent office is getting quite compelling. To ignore or call it junk science will begin to make them look foolish.

      • Roger Bird Says:

        Bob, it is Celini. You need to remember that so that you can tell your grandchildren.

        We greatly underestimate the quality of Italian science because most of our Italian immigrants were peasants and had a difficult time in our country initially. But remember Enrico Fermi, Galileo, Fibonacci, and many others. Italians are going to make a big splash in the 21st century. And the name Celani will be amongst those name. High schools will be named after Rossi.

      • Iggy Dalrymple Says:

        Here’s a case where a delayed patent finally resulted in a big payoff for the inventor of the intermittent windshield wiper. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kearns

      • Roger Bird Says:

        Even though Kearns won, it was still very difficult for him.

      • brucefast Says:

        I remember years ago bumping into a fellow in a campground in Oregon. He was a personal friend of Kearns. He expressed to me how frustrated his friend was to have patented this thing and got nothing for it. I’m glad to see that it paid off for him.

        One thing not well understood about patents is that they give the patent holder the right to defend his position. The police won’t do it. The patent holder must recognize that someone is infringing, file the suits, and fund the process.

        Patents are really for the big players. For us little guys, the best we usually can do is to sell our patents to one of the big guys, or find an attorney that will work on contingency (of course giving the lawyer the lion’s share of the winnings.)

      • brucefast Says:

        Roger Bird, “High schools will be named after Rossi.”

        That’s funny. Half the time google translate translates Rossi as Smith.

      • Bob Norman Says:

        Women will cry!
        Children will be named Rossi & Smith (translation)
        Al Gore will take credit.
        Politicians will tax it and proclaim they were the first to support it.

        In the end live will go on (just a bit cheaper and easier)

  30. Cold Fusion Talk Spreads Across the Web | e-Cat Site Says:

    […]  nickelpower.org/2011/11/07/if-replication-is-the-holy-grail/ […]

  31. Louis Tengzelius Says:

    A flood of success! Latest: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg64616.html
    and http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg65680.html

    • Iggy Dalrymple Says:

      Congratulations on your patent application, Lou!


      Publication number US20130019855 A1
      Publication type Application
      Application number 13/113,036
      Publication date Jan 24, 2013
      Filing date Jul 18, 2011
      Priority date Jul 18, 2011
      Archie Lou Tengzelius
      Tengzelius Archie Lou
      U.S. Classification
      International Classification
      External Links
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      Exothermic fusion
      US 20130019855 A1
      This discovery describes a new process to produce thermal energy through mass conversion under mild conditions by using hydride containing materials to be activated in the presence of group 10 and 11 elements causing nuclear fusion followed by disassociation of the unstable result yielding stable products and thermal energy.

      1. A method for carrying out an isothermal reaction by mixing magnesium hydride, copper hydride, lithium borohydride and nickel hydride powders and placing said mixture in a steel cavity capable of being tightly sealed. A self sustained exothermic reaction is initiated by placing said aforementioned module or multiples thereof into an environment which can be heated such as a closed pressure vessel containing water and applying external thermal energy only sufficient to raise the temperature to 200 Celsius, after which time steam can be released through a pressure relief valve and feed water added to maintain a constant level in the said vessel.

      2. A method of controlling the reaction rate as described in claim 1. by adjusting the temperature within the containment vessel after initiation.

      3. A method for carrying out an isothermal reaction by mixing finely divided magnesium hydride, copper and lithium borohydride and placing said mixture in a steel cavity capable of being tightly sealed. A self sustained exothermic reaction is initiated by placing said aforementioned module or multiples thereof into an environment which can be heated such as a closed pressure vessel containing water and applying external thermal energy only sufficient to raise the temperature to 200 Celsius, after which time steam can be released through a pressure relief valve and feed water added to maintain a constant level in the said vessel or an open vessel containing a heat transfer fluid and applying sufficient thermal energy to raise its temperature until a self sustained isothermal reaction initiates and withdrawing sufficient thermal energy from said fluid to control the reaction rate.

      4. A method for carrying out an isothermal reaction as described in claim 3 whereby finely divided nickel, raney nickel or nickel hydride is substituted for copper.

      5. A method for carrying out an isothermal reaction as described in previous claims whereby finely divided boron, boron nitride or boron carbide is substituted for lithium borohydride.

      6. A method for carrying out an isothermal reaction as described in previous claims whereby solid constituents are suspended in a heat transfer fluid inert to the substances contained therein and the reaction conditions.

  32. Craig Binns Says:

    “Cold Fusion talk spreads across the web.”

    You guys quoting free energy sites because they’re recycling your own stuff? As if this is somehow evidence for Cold Fusion?!?! Crazeeee!

  33. Nicholas Says:

    a Bruce Lee workout includes stretching, bending, running,
    dipping, kicking, jumping, traditional muscle building
    exercises, weight lifting, rope skipping, medicine ball handling, etc.
    Avocados- Although not my favorite, are high in fats, the good ones.
    That way, the actual process will end up being much
    less frustrating and, for the majority of people, enjoyable.

    • iggydalrymple Says:

      Avocado by morning, up from San Antone.
      Everything that I’ve got is just what I’ve got on.
      When that sun is high in that texas sky
      I’ll be bucking at the county fair.
      Avocado by morning, Avocado I’ll be there.

      They took my saddle in Houston, broke my leg in Santa Fe.
      Lost my wife and a girlfriend somewhere along the way.
      Well I’ll be looking for eight when they pull that gate,
      And I’m hoping that judge ain’t blind.
      Avocado by morning, Avocado’s on my mind.

      Avocado by morning, up from San Antone.
      Everything that I’ve got is just what I’ve got on.
      I ain’t got a dime, but what I got is mine.
      I ain’t rich, but lord I’m free.
      Avocado by morning, Avocado’s where I’ll be.
      Avocado by morning, Avocado’s where I’ll be.

      Iggy Strait

  34. Gregg Says:

    You don’t have to hit the gym for two and three hours each day to lose weight, but it does help to squeeze in 30 minutes of physical activity each day. Vitamin B3 or also called as Niacin is important in weight loss because it is responsible for the regulation of thyroid hormones and also in sugar levels in the body. Now, the average healthy amount people are supposed to lose is 2 pounds per week.

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