The aha moment

“Now that this first customer has signed off on this technology, and Rossi will be receiving funds, he can pay the half million needed for the University of Bologna and Uppsala University to begin doing their tests, which will take 2 years.”

http://pesn.com/2011/10/30/9501941_Rebuttal_to_Krivits_Accusation_that_Andrea_Rossi_is_a_Fraudster/

Now we understand fully why Rossi hasn’t followed the scientific model.

That, and this 2004 article that shows that the scientic community has had the evidence staring them in the face for years, and has let the ball drop.

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/6.11/coldfusion_pr.html

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5 Responses to “The aha moment”

  1. brucefast Says:

    I am very frustrated that this “aha moment” post has been pretty much ignored. I know it doesn’t sound real. Why the heck would the U. of Bologna need buckets of money and two years to confirm the validity of the ecat. They should be able to black box test the thing in a week.

    However, I now don’t just have Rossi’s word, or Stirling Allan’s word. This link provides a quote from “a representative of … the University of Bologna”:

    “ To activate the contract we want to pay the first installment of the contribution, 500 000 euros in two years, that Jones has committed to provide for all costs. We should be starting soon, in a few weeks – in summer you could have the first scientific report of the results obtained disclose to scientific journals.” {google translated from Italian}

    There you have it, gobs of money and two years for the scientific community to figure out if the darn thing works. In two years my car likely will be run by an e-cat (yes, I plan to build my own conversion).

  2. maryyugo Says:

    It will be interesting if it’s ever paid which it has not. The university has said they will announce it when it is.

    But even if such research is ever started, it is not intended to retest the E-cat. That’s what’s really necessary. Rossi always avoids that. Why?

  3. rene Says:

    2 years to measure this vapor machine … yeah sure rossi , you should have told 10 … at least
    such a crook

  4. Anony Mole Says:

    Lack of response? Well, it took 30 minutes to read the wired article… That might be your problem.

    Regardless, LENR is a reality, albeit a fickle one. Palladium is not the metal of choice, obviously. And Rossi’s choice of nickel seems prescient, and an apparent cure to the inconsistencies that have plagued the effort for 20 years.

    The scientific and political intrigue that flows through the whole history of cold fusion will make a great movie some day. It is obvious to me that an concerted effort has been in place to downplay the possibilities that such a technology could produce. Do NOT upset the fossil fuel apple cart. No matter what! But what’s fun is, I believe, that it is just this fakir pall that was cast over cold fusion that has been its saving grace. It had to be ignored – it was bogus science. Had it been proved legitimate out of the gate it is possible that it may have been buried too deep by the powers that be to escape into the wild. Which it appears it has done.

    So thank the sequence of strange science that has let this discovery become a reality.

  5. Simon Derricutt Says:

    At first I skipped over reading the Wired article, but I’m glad I read it.

    Bruce – I agree that U. Bologna should be able to test it in a week, and should really do it for free to gain the kudos. Half a million euros? I feel that is somewhat of a rip-off. Students would do the work under tutors’ surveillance – good training for them and it costs Bologna effectively nothing. If it were a 2% gain in power, then yes, it’s difficult. A 400% gain in power (COP=5) can be measured with a thermometer and stopwatch – not high-tech.
    Meantime I’ve just seen that the contract has been terminated by Bologna, as they haven’t been paid yet.

    The Wired article notes that the only people still researching LENR are old scientists, since for one reason or another they can afford to. No young researchers because (a) they have been taught that LENR is pathological science and (b) there’s no grants to do it (and in any case you can’t patent it because it will be instantly rejected by the US patent office – thanks Iggy for that info). The article does mention that there are businessmen willing to fund research, though it’ll probably be the greybeards they hire. No young researchers probably means no really new ideas about it, and this field needs new ideas.

    I hope Rossi has the last laugh, and makes money from selling working ones.

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